The state’s tax department falsely states, “The tax lien will appear on a taxpayerâs credit history for 7-10 years, even after the debt is paid in full.”
Liens are not on credit reports; not even on credit reports.
256. Oh, the chaos. Behind the scenes, there is some outlandish rumor about patience. It will not stand. The truth will come outâat least two people know what it is.
But the big question is What hotel? #falsity #Whistlestop #n542 #2604XO
TO: OnlineHelp, NYC Department of Consumer and Worker Protection (DCWP); Community Affairs, NYC Department of Consumer and Worker Protection (DCWP) CC: Make the Road New York; Kara Findlay, Citi; ICA Group; Joyce Moy, City University of New York FROM: Greg Fisher<greg@truthandfalsity.com> DATE: Wednesday, October 23, 2024, 12:17âŻPM
SUBJECT: information request, credit score
Vilda Vera Mayuga
Commissioner
Department of Consumer and Worker Protection (DCWP)
City of New York
Instead of making a demand using your freedom of information law, I am appealing to you to provide information to me directly.
Find this message published at blog.creditscoring.com. If you ever need any help regarding credit scores, do not hesitate to ask; I have been doing this a long, long time and have amassed a lot of information. Please reply today.
From: Greg Fisher (greg@creditscoring.com) Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 11:39 AM To: Richard H. Brodhead, president, Duke University Subject: RE: credit score, employers, myth, falsity, truth, efficacy of a social media message, ivory tower II, falsity
I do not see a reply to my email from you, and I am troubled that I have not noticed any that you might have made. But, the change that you made to your previously false document (if that is your response (and if it is not, then it is the greatest coincidence in history)) gives me, at least, a glimmer of hope for the future of the planet.
However, something elseâsomething fundamentalâtroubles me even more. You state: âYou can always ask a credit card company or other creditor to have negative information removed from your account. They want to keep their customers happy, so they will commonly oblige your request if you have regularly made your payments on time and just made a few errors.â
That is in your documentâavailable worldwideâtitled, âHow can I improve my credit score?â and is the biggest crock of nonsense that I have ever heard. But I have heard it before and did what I could to stop it. After publicly following consumer reporting for 15 years, I have heard it all.
The law, the Fair Credit Reporting Act, states
The banking system is dependent upon fair and accurate credit reporting. Inaccurate credit reports directly impair the efficiency of the banking system, and unfair credit reporting methods undermine the public confidence which is essential to the continued functioning of the banking system.
It is no wonder the students and young alumni of Duke have an advantage: They have the power to change history.
I used the microcosm of the myth that employers use credit scores to determine the integrity of mainstream media. In that exercise of herding cats, I found that, largely, media organizations are passive-aggressive: They ignore their problem with accuracy, errors and corrections, and me. The First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution lives. The New York Times (the metaphor as well as the actual organization) needs no formal license to exist, publishes falsity (even about American history) and answers to no one. Now that that exhaustive (and exhausting) 5-year study of mine is over, as I crawl out of that rabbit hole of ridiculousness and into the light on the surface, I find ridiculousness ten-fold and growing.
But institutions of higher learning are not cats. They are (to use a fourth metaphor) a different animal, and, in some casesâas with public institutions, for instanceâdo, indeed, answer to higher authority. Although that appears not to be the case with you, your affiliation with a religious organization indicates a relationship to a higher moral authority, at least.
And so, since I have not seen a reply from you, I will now berate you with a prediction: You will change your website regarding that bunk about begging a creditor to create a history that never was, and, indeed, sir, suggesting that banks commonly lie to credit bureaus. It is heresy. Your outrageous suggestion impairs the efficiency of the banking system and undermines public confidence.
Have some dignity.
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Greg Fisher
The Credit Scoring Site creditscoring.com
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PO Box 342
Dayton, Ohio 45409-0342
937-681-3224
A wild ride down a rabbit hole in New Jersey, the expert meets the dean of dating disasters and that (you know what).
Jersey
nj.com (aka the Star-Ledger) publishes a letter from a reader, one “Harry in Basking Ridge,” who says he has a credit score that would be outrageously high on one score’s scale. He got it by applying for a credit card (an important point). But, he wants to know, essentially, why certain things “adversely” affect his score, and why the system could see his credit file as negative.
Here’s the thing: In theory, all credit scores are all negative, unless perfect. And, they all come with reasons that the score is not higher. The only other non-negative possibility is Dave Ramsey‘s oft-repeated misinformation piece: No score due to lack of, or insufficient, credit history (just not enough data to go on to even calculate a score).
Reporters will be reporters, so the scribe with the by-line plows right in without getting clarification. Along for the ride is another willing quotable person as the newspaper reporter gives a wild explanation considering a multitude of fun facts, possibilities and speculations–about FICO scores, another score brand, a home equity line of credit, a personal line of credit, dubious advice about the proportion of balances to credit limits on revolving accounts and even mistaken identity.
Then, it goes off the rails with a comment about “default issues.”
Harry, that’s probably insulting, so a let’s talk.
While we’re waiting for him to make contact, consider a deeper implication of his scenario. Recent credit score disclosures, required by law, leave much to the imagination. One might say “Scores range from a low of 300 to a high of 850,” but what credit score it refers to is anybody’s guess.
Some disclosures say, “Your credit score ranks higher than [x] percent of U.S. consumers.” What the reader’s disclosure said in that regard is a mystery.
But, in a very peculiar case, another publication by the same company touched on the issue without even knowing it. If only…
Dating (again)
Out of the disclosure rabbit hole (for now), we bravely head into the Fox hole known as dating. The newspaper named the New York Times made it all the rage this year with a lovely little Christmas day tale, but unfortunately for the Times, the facts (and errors by the Times presented as facts) are unraveling.
Now, Experian (whose hanger-on-to the Queen chairman, himself, is a story) jumps in with its freecreditscore.com band brand and a survey (catnip for journalists; see LSU, below).
But who wouldn’t want to see the ever-ebullient Dean of Dating, chuckling Chucky-Chuck Woolery, again?! He’s the expert on love, and John Ulzheimer is the expert on credit scores. Take a look, and come back in 2 and 2.
Of all the Chucks, this guy is, well, one of them (because the best still rocks (‘n rolls)).
The takeaway for industry: Conduct a survey and get press, but be careful what you wish for.
The takeaway for citizens–consumers of news/infotainment: Don’t believe a thing that freecreditscore.com (Experian) says, despite their funny lip-synching, loveable loser band commercials.
Fox in the FOX house
“A poor credit score can haunt you throughout adulthood, affecting your ability to rent an apartment, finance a car, buy a home or even land your dream job.” – some guy, yesterday, published on a Fox Television Stations website
So, here we are. After 5 years, we still get a bald-faced and unsupported false statement like that. It is horrible. Notice the now-you-see-it-now-you-don’t change regarding a Louisiana State University study on a Rupert Murdoch website, the honorable correction by another party and the myth of the decade, still, on government websites.
Greta Van Susteren (in her headline, no less) blares, “Look who is going to Capitol Hill â on an invitation from Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell!!”
As a voting citizen, you were involved in compiling a “Complete List of Majority and Minority Leaders (in fact that is exactly what it is called, and it is on your website). You see? He’s on the right (the losing side).
Hey kids! One positive outcome of this ridiculousness, is identifying, perhaps, what very-well could be the perfect responsive web design page! Watch what happens when you squish your browser window (which is, apparently, the ultimate test of this fabulous, fundamental new standard)! Try it!
The Honorable Andrew M. Cuomo
Governor of New York State
You state, “For Sandy Victims, Blemishes on Credit Score Can Mean Higher Costs for Home, Auto, and Business Loans, Greater Difficulty Finding Employment.”
You wrote: âExperian, a major credit reporting agencies[SIC], estimates that 66 million Americans are unscoreable[SIC]âthey do not have enough credit history to generate a credit score. And without a credit score, they canât get loans to buy cars, start businesses, get mortgages, rent apartments, or even get jobs.â
From: Greg Fisher [mailto:greg@creditscoring.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 11:03 AM To: Michelle Person, spokesperson, U.S. Consumer Financial Protection Bureau Cc: Richard Cordray, director, U.S. Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (via press office); Mallory McLean, press assistant, U.S. Consumer Financial Protection Bureau; Moira Vahey, spokesperson, U.S. Consumer Financial Protection Bureau Subject: RE: Who changed the name of our Consumer Financial Protection Bureau?, checking your credit score
One of your âSTEPS TO GET AND KEEP A GOOD CREDIT SCOREâ is âGET YOUR FREE CREDIT REPORT EVERY YEAR.â In it, you state, âTip: You donât have to buy your credit score. The information you receive from the agencies is adequate.â
However, the document title of another of your public documents is,âConsumer Advisory: Check your credit score at least once a year.â You can find that title in the properties of the document by opening it and using Ctrl+D, by performing a right click and choosing Document Properties, or by using File then Properties in the menu of a PDF reader.
Even the internet address of the document (http://files.consumerfinance.gov/f/201207_cfpb_consumer-advisory_check-your-credit-score-every-year.pdf) contains the same message. But the word score does not even exist in the document content itself. Despite the file name, document title and internet web address, if you perform a word search for âscorâ within the document that is displayed, there are no matches.
On July 16, somebody in your organization wrote, âRead our consumer advisory on checking your credit score at least once a year.â That message is signed âCFPB Web Team.â What is the name of the person who is the head of that team?
If your advice is to check our credit scores once a year, then which one should we check? And, how much does it cost citizens to do so?
And, answer last monthâs questions today. You are falling behind.
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Greg Fisher
The Credit Scoring Site creditscoring.com
PO Box 342
Dayton, Ohio 45409-0342
From: Greg Fisher [mailto:greg@creditscoring.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 2:03 PM To: Moira Vahey, spokesperson, U.S. Consumer Financial Protection Bureau Cc: Richard Cordray, director, U.S. Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (via press office); Mallory McLean, press assistant, U.S. Consumer Financial Protection Bureau Subject: RE: Who changed the name of our Consumer Financial Protection Bureau?, utilization ratio advice
You must be citing alleged-credit score experts from the credit card industry. What experts gave that advice to get and keep a good credit score? Name at least two.
Here is mine:
Fair Isaac, the FICO score company, states, âThe more you owe compared to your credit limit, the lower your score will be.”
A person who pitches scores for Fair Isaac on its website stated, âThe FICO brain trust says there is no specific number that qualifies as a âgoodâ ratio, just that lower is always better.â
In describing traits of those who Fair Isaac deems âHigh Achievers,â the company claims that those people use âan average of 7% of their available revolving credit.â
And, please answer Mondayâs question. Iâm with the media, and Iâm on deadline! The law says that you are to be known as the Bureau of Consumer Financial Protection, and you are doing everything you can to be known as something else.
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Greg Fisher
The Credit Scoring Site creditscoring.com
PO Box 342
Dayton, Ohio 45409-0342